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		<title>Rosie vs New Kate (update)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 05:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Six months or so ago, I wrote a comparison piece between New Kate (TomTom) and Rosie&#8217;s built-in satnav (RNS-E). At that time, and since, I&#8217;ve generally settled for Rosie over Kate, but thought that perhaps, on a longer trip around &#8230; <a href="http://blog.soapyfrog.com/2010/08/29/rvnk2/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six months or so ago, I wrote a <a title="Rosie vs New Kate" href="/2010/02/02/rosie-vs-new-kate/" target="_blank">comparison piece</a> between New Kate (TomTom) and Rosie&#8217;s built-in satnav (RNS-E).</p>
<p>At that time, and since, I&#8217;ve generally settled for Rosie over Kate, but thought that perhaps, on a longer trip around Europe, I&#8217;d go with Kate.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m mid way through our second Euro road trip, and thought I post a few new findings. Both Rosie and Kate have maps current as of Spring 2010.</p>
<p>First of all, I decided from the outset to use Rosie for all <em>navigation</em> needs yet still have Kate on the windscreen to show a 2D overview map and to list current speed and limit in km/h (Rosie doesn&#8217;t show speed limits).</p>
<p>As a test (and a backup) I&#8217;d plan my routes in Kate first, then keep her passive whilst in the car.</p>
<p>Amazingly, though, Kate didn&#8217;t know the first three addresses we wanted to go to &#8211; Reims, Aix-les-Bains (France) and Stresa (Italy). Not only did Rosie understand the addresses, but she also knew the hotels.</p>
<p>Rosie also wins when planning a more <em>interesting</em> route.</p>
<p>With Kate, you tell her to use a particular waypoint &#8211; a small town, intersection or to avoid something&#8230; all a bit fiddly.</p>
<p>With Rosie, I tried this initially, but gave up and just said: take me to xxx. But pleasingly, Kate will offer a few variations on the route that, so far, has including the interesting things I wanted to do.</p>
<p>So Kate is very techie, very algo-oriented and Rosie just seems to know the best way to get places.</p>
<p>An aside to this is the way Kate deals with toll roads. You either have them or not. With Rosie, she shows a selection of routes with the amount of time on toll roads shown for each (they&#8217;re much harder to avoid in mainland Europe, and in Switzerland, all motorways are toll roads).</p>
<p>Well, we&#8217;re only half way though this trip so plenty of time for navigation disasters, but so far for France, Italy and Switzerland, Rosie definitely wins.</p>
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		<title>Wales</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last bank holiday weekend, we headed over to North Wales again. I loved it last time, wandering mostly around Snowdonia, with a bit of pottering around other interesting places, and we stayed in a rather lovely manor. This time, &#8230; <a href="http://blog.soapyfrog.com/2010/06/04/wales/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last bank holiday weekend, we headed over to North Wales again. I loved it last time, wandering mostly around <a title="Snowdon" href="/2008/09/14/snowdon/" target="_blank">Snowdonia</a>, with a bit of pottering around other <a title="The Prisoner" href="/2008/09/14/the-prisoner/" target="_blank">interesting places</a>, and we stayed in a rather lovely <a title="Seiont Manor" href="/2008/09/14/seiont-manor/" target="_blank">manor</a>.</p>
<p>This time, I wanted to return to the area, drive over the Llanberis Pass (a few times), but maybe see something different.</p>
<p>We picked <a title="Bodysgallen Hall" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/goron/sets/72157624186812228/" target="_blank">Bodysgallen Hall</a> for the place to stay, a little way outside of Llandudno, but close enough to the mountains for a blast.</p>
<p>We never made it into Llandudno itself, but did have a tour around Anglesey, a rather splendid place, especially the north side where we had a wander around Bull Bay.</p>
<p>The area in general reminds me a lot of the Alps, strangely enough. Llanberis Pass is as good as the San Bernadino and the A55 from Conwy down to Bangor is very much like the tunnel sections to the west of Geneva. You really don&#8217;t have to go that far to get good roads. Rosie loves them.</p>
<p>The area is also well stocked with Shell garages, essential for feeding a thirsty girl as they all sell V-Power <img src='http://blog.soapyfrog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s it for another bank holiday. The next one in August will probably see us on another Euro road trip; a different route this time, but I&#8217;m sure the Alps will feature again&#8230;</p>
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<p>Satnav Note: Kate didn&#8217;t see any use this trip. I&#8217;ve completely switched over to Rosie&#8217;s built-in satnav. There may be <a title="Rosie vs New Kate" href="/2010/02/02/rosie-vs-new-kate/" target="_blank">plusses and minuses</a>, but Rosie wins out over all.</p>
<p>Tech Note: Usually, I take the MacBook with me on trips, for keeping in touch, planning routes, checking out local tourist things, etc. On this trip, the iPad made its debut (with the MacBook as backup). The iPad completely met my needs, however, and the MacBook stayed in its case. In fact, it hasn&#8217;t come out since we returned.</p>
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		<title>Rosie vs. New Kate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A sat nav comparison &#8211; New Kate is a TomTom 950 Live (old Kate was a 520) and Rosie refers to her built-in RNS-E device (Rosie being an Audi RS4). Background Old Kate was very good and served me well &#8230; <a href="http://blog.soapyfrog.com/2010/02/02/rosie-vs-new-kate/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sat nav comparison &#8211; New Kate is a TomTom 950 Live (old Kate was a 520) and Rosie refers to her built-in RNS-E device (Rosie being an Audi RS4).</p>
<p><strong>Background</strong></p>
<p><em>Old Kate</em> was very good and served me well for the last (nearly) two years, but  shit software from TomTom meant that syncing and updating a device with an SD card installed was just too much grief and finally the whole thing became too much so I bought <em>New Kate</em> that had all the maps on the internal &#8216;drive.&#8217; Much better and also had the cool LIVE services.</p>
<p>Rosie&#8217;s <em>RNS-E</em> is built in, but has maps circa 2006 and lacks a few features.</p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s a feature comparison:</p>
<p><strong>Viewing experience</strong></p>
<p>New Kate&#8217;s screen is smaller than Rosie&#8217;s but is higher resolution and brighter. Also, New Kate, being stuck to the windscreen, is more in line of site, so you get to keep your eyes on the road more. On the other hand, Rosie also puts turn information on the instrument cluster right in front of you.</p>
<p>Having driven a few hundred miles now with Rosie&#8217;s sat nav, I&#8217;d say there&#8217;s not really much in it.</p>
<p><strong>Route accuracy</strong></p>
<p>New Kate wins hands down here. Not only does she know the roads better (up todate maps), but knows about crap roads (and to avoid them) and can do eco routes and &#8211; here&#8217;s the winner &#8211; has live services so can route based on actual traffic conditions.</p>
<p>Rosie has TMC, but not very often. She doesn&#8217;t know about eco routes and is much slower at recalculating a route when you ignore her and go somewhere else.</p>
<p><strong>Ease of programming</strong></p>
<p>New Kate is very easy to program. On screen keyboard means you can type in names and places. Unfortunately, the responsiveness is crap, so you end up retyping and generally taking ages. On the other hand, you can pre-program routes from the comfort of home or hotel room, whereas with Rosie, you need to be in the car.</p>
<p>Rosie is a bit more fiddly to enter destinations (no keyboard) but surprisingly has many special destinations built in, eg, I couldn&#8217;t enter the postcode for a place I wanted in Margate, but she did have the place itself.</p>
<p><strong>Ease of use when driving</strong></p>
<p>It is very hard to do anything with New Kate when driving. Mainly because she&#8217;s just that much further away (stuck to the screen), and the touch screen requires a bit of accuracy of prodding, taking attention even more from the road. So basically, don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Rosie is a bit easier. All controls are via the MMI interface which can be used without looking and is within reach.</p>
<p>New Kate can be controlled via voice, but only you prod the right places on the screen first. RNS-E also has voice control but not in Rosie (needs some phone preparation hardware).</p>
<p><strong>Sexiness of voice</strong></p>
<p>Rosie. Hands down. Although Kate is quite bossy <img src='http://blog.soapyfrog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Convenience</strong></p>
<p>Well, Rosie is always there, so scores highly with convenience. No need to plug anything in, or stick to the screen. On the other hand, New Kate is convenient in that you can plan before you get in the car.</p>
<p><strong>Miscellaneous</strong></p>
<p>Rosie has a nice feature where on a motorway, she&#8217;ll list all the upcoming junctions and service stations. New Kate doesn&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>New Kate knows where the nearest cheapest fuel can be had and can do Google lookups. Rosie cannot. Although I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s that useful in practice. The latter is also an expensive service which I may not want to pay for.</p>
<p>New Kate can show the map whilst Rosie shows info on the music I&#8217;m listening too. Rosie can&#8217;t do both at the same time&#8230; well she can a bit &#8211; the info cluster in front of you still shows next turn info.</p>
<p>New Kate can read road names, whereas Rosie can only read road numbers and major town and city names.</p>
<p><strong>Summary</strong></p>
<p>A tricky one. I think for most things, I&#8217;d use Rosie for navigation but if going on a longer trip, especially somewhere in Europe, I&#8217;d probably use New Kate. If nothing else New Kate would be a backup.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d really like to be able to say Rosie is perfect and New Kate is going on eBay, but I can&#8217;t. Even if I get the 2010 map updates, I&#8217;d still be torn between the two.</p>
<p>I think a revisit is required in six months.</p>
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		<title>ScottScott</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought a TomTom (other satellite navigation products are available) this week, and today was my first go with it. I got up early, and armed with RDS adaptor, power cable, the device itself and a few other things, I &#8230; <a href="http://blog.soapyfrog.com/2008/04/12/scottscott/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a TomTom (other satellite navigation products are available) this week, and today was my first go with it.</p>
<p>I got up early, and armed with RDS adaptor, power cable, the device itself and a few other things, I set of downstairs to the garage. Bugger, forgot the windscreen holder doodah. Oh well, I need to go out and get fuel, so I&#8217;ll fit it later.</p>
<p>My nearest petrol station is the ASDA Isle of Dogs, but I got lost on the way! Typical. It&#8217;s only about 2 miles, and I get lost. And I have a TomTom, but not fitted. This just proves I need it.</p>
<p>In my defence, the road I needed to take to get to ASDA (Marsh Wall) was closed, so I had to figure out all the diversions myself, but still, I thought it somewhat ironic <img src='http://blog.soapyfrog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyways, I refuelled, went back home, fitted TomTom, collected wife, and headed out east toward Southend-on-Sea.</p>
<p>TomTom is great. &#8220;Turn left,&#8221; she&#8217;d say and I&#8217;d carry on. Without skipping a beat, she&#8217;d work out a new plan &#8220;Take third exit at roundabout,&#8221; and I&#8217;d ignore that too. Eventually, she&#8217;d just say &#8220;turn around,&#8221; and the map would have a big green arrow pointing in the direction I&#8217;ve come from. I was half expecting her to &#8220;tut tut&#8221; or sulk or something, but no <img src='http://blog.soapyfrog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, she (and I&#8217;ve decided she is a she) did eventually give me the silent treatment in Southend, when she ran out of battery. Clearly the included power cable is not there for decoration.</p>
<p>Sometimes, I found her instructions to be at odds with reality, and her being a woman, and me being a bloke, I tend to just do as I&#8217;m told. For example, this caused me to visit the cinema by West India Quay, even though I knew perfectly well that it wasn&#8217;t the correct way home.</p>
<p>So a fun day. We went (Southend is a shit hole, by the way), got lost, went to places we didn&#8217;t intend to go, but got back home in one piece, and <a href="/2008/04/04/herman-is-born/">Herman</a>, content to stretch his legs a bit, is safely tucked up in the garage again, ready for a new day of automotive joy tomorrow&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh wait, it&#8217;s the <a href="/2008/04/11/dear-london-marathon-organisers/">sodding marathon tomorrow</a>. Grrr.</p>
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